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Pinnacle Studio splash screen

Really, Corel like to make surprises!

Against all odds, Pinnacle Studio 18 came out today and, true to our reputation, we deliver the information to you as soon as possible. Of course we will take the time to test more deeply the new baby of the Pinnacle Studio family and get back to you later with more details, but already here is that there is to know about this new version and first impressions.
 

 

 

 

 

As usual now the software is proposed in three versions : PS18 $59.95, PS18 Plus $99.95 ($69.95 for upgrade) and PS18 Ultimate $129.95 ($89.95 for upgrade).

3 versions

Let's start immediatly with the main novelty.
After installing your software, do not bother to look in C:\Program Files (x86)\Pinnacle\Studio 18. For all those who have a 64-bits version of Windows, you will find it in C:\Program Files\Pinnacle\Studio 18. The difference is crucial: Pinnacle Studio 18 became a 64-bits application! This means that in terms of development the programmers team at Corel had to rewrite entire sections of Studio. The reward is a faster treatment and a RAM management capacity increased. When a 32-bits application can handle 2 ^ 32 bits so 4GB, a 64-bits application can handle 2 ^ 64 bits or about 2 billion GB. That's on paper, because in practice the transition to 64-bits is rarely as stunning as promised. We'll see in our tests how it is with Pinnacle Studio.
In practice, the Studio Installer will detect the type of operating system on your PC and install the 32-bits or 64-bits automatically. A possible trick is to install the 32-bits version on a 64-bits OS. But I still keep a little bit the secret for me.

Also in the area of installation, the additional content of Studio 18 is no longer mixed in the C:\Users\Public\Documents\Pinnacle\Content folder that was shared by all versions of Studio, but in a specific folder. I suppose that some media are specific to 64-bits, but it's still a guess. Maybe montage themes?

For the rest here is in bulk what I have noticed :

  • a new Grouping feature. As its name suggests, it allows you to group items on the timeline so that they behave as a single element
  • a new Close gaps feature to automatically close gaps between assets in timeline
  • hardware accelaration allows now to chose between Intel Quick Sync (for graphic chipsets integrated in CPU), CUDA or none
  • Red Giant effects are no longer delivered in PS18, but if PS17 is already installed on your system, they will be retrieved automatically by PS18. But they will work in 32-bits
  • a great collection of NewBlue effects : Film Effect, Essentials II, VI et VII, NewBlue Stabilizer
  • 2 collections of NewBlue transitions : Lightblends et Motionblends
  • a collection of musics from Triple Scoop Music
  • possible to export using XAVC S Sony's format
  • the ability to determine a specific area of the global timeline to be exported
  • on your Windows desktop an icon is installed directing you to a web page of Studio Backlot, a website developed by Paul Holtz at Class on Demand. On this commercial website you will find lot of resources for Studio. For 45 days the entire site is free access
  • the advanced Trimming mode of Studio is only available in Insert editing mode
  • for royalties reasons to Blu-ray Disc Association, lthe Blu-ray export must be enabled in the ? Menu.
  • no more Box account, nor Box direct export

I kept the best/worst for the end. The SmartSound no longer work. Is it a hiccup in history or just a technical problem, I hope it all falls into place quickly. After offering the SmartSound plugin to everyone in the Studio 17.5 patch, I will not understand that Corel make it disappear in the Studio 18. Note, thta Smartsound is still running fine in 32 bits version of PS18.
Besides, we touches on here one of the problems of the transitionning to 64-bits. The need for third-party publishers to adapt their plugins to 64-bits. The problems of backwards compatibility will quickly appear, it is hoped that the 64-bits versions of our prefered plugins are quickly developed.

Partial timeline export :

Partial exportExport partiel

Triple Scoop musics :

Triple Scoop Music

The Grouping feature :

Grouping feature

Last minute info :

Once you start using the software, a window will pop up offering to patch immediately. Studio will become 18.0.1.312. If you needed proof that Corel will continue to improve PS18, you are now ok.



Comments

martin Gardner
#martin Gardner
Thursday, October 23, 2014 4:37 AM
Have just installed Pinnacle 18 ultimate upgrade and patched it .. I cannot find the NEW BLUE effects anywhere in the programme. As you correctly mentioned RED GIANT effects have been incorporated from Pinnacle 17.. Does anyone know how to find the New Blue effects.
gaetano
#gaetano
Thursday, October 23, 2014 8:35 AM
I am not able to see the .mp4 files any more.
Even in the 17 version
TonyP
#TonyP
Thursday, October 23, 2014 12:38 PM
@Declic, you say in the opening, "the last baby of the Pinnacle Studio family", is this the LAST version ever of Pinnacle STudio?
@martin Gardner, did you look in your BonusContent folder and install them? Do they show that they were installed in the InstallManager?
@gaetano, you install the latest patch?
Déclic Vidéo FX
#Déclic Vidéo FX
Thursday, October 23, 2014 3:03 PM
@ TonyP, sorry, probably a problem of translation. What we mean, is the latest release of Pinnacle Studio, not the last for ever (or at least, we don't know if it's the case).
Is it clarified ?

DV FX
saby
#saby
Thursday, October 23, 2014 3:08 PM
Instead of "last" I should have used "new".
TonyP
#TonyP
Thursday, October 23, 2014 3:25 PM
I kind of thought it was a translation mistake, that is why I mentioned it.
No problem! I too hope this is not the last one!
lifechip
#lifechip
Thursday, October 23, 2014 11:41 PM
How can a company with the "professional" background like Corel, bring out a brand new version (18) before they have removed all the kinks in v17, why does one even bother.
TonyP
#TonyP
Friday, October 24, 2014 6:05 AM
@lifechip. That's a good question. No company that I know of removes all the "kinks" in their software before another release. It also depends on what those "kinks" are. None for "me" have been show stoppers. If they were, I would use another editor and learn the new bugs that come with it. And yes, I own several.
But, you don't have to buy it. That's the great thing! There are also other editors out there too! I've tried them and come back to PS. Pretty stable, do incremental saves and I have been able to complete every project.
Again, these are "my" experiences.
charlie
#charlie
Friday, October 24, 2014 12:54 PM
lo sto scaricando, ma il download è lentissimo !
Jacques Lamontagne
Friday, October 24, 2014 2:52 PM
Hello to the Déclic community,

I've been reading your comments with respect since the launch of version 18 earlier this week and I hope you will have the patience to read my following comments which, while rather lengthy, I hope will be of use.

First of all, regarding the annual releases of Pinnacle Studio. Annual releases are common practice in the video editing business and for competitive reasons, we cannot do otherwise. Obviously there are some commercial reasons behind this and it would be dishonest if developers implied otherwise. That said, the practice also meets two important objectives: First, new technologies introduced by hardware manufacturers force us to constantly adjust and add support for an ever increasing number of technologies. Second, we wish to introduce our innovations as soon as possible to our users.

I would also like to write a few words about us including a patch at day of launch. We do this because of logistical constraints. The delta between box/DVD availability in the market and electronic availability is somewhere between 30 and 45 days. We use this period to continue making improvements and fix issues (the hunt for bugs never ends unfortunately). We've observed that this practice has actually become standard in the PC gaming industry for instance.

(I warned that this would be lengthy)

On the French forum (my native language in case you're unhappy with my typos :-) Cyborg jeff asks a question about Blu-ray support: Blu-ray is still available in PS 18, and there is no extra cost associated with activation of the Blu-ray option.

Regarding sale price in Europe (again in response to a comment on the French forum), I believe the main reason for the wide variance between USD pricing and EURO pricing is because all taxes are included in the price in Europe.

Regarding plugins: Plugins remain a perpetual challenge for Video Editors such as us, especially when it comes to making them work on an entirely new architecture. TrueBlue Plugins should work without a problem. The RedGiant plugins should also work with PS18 if they have been installed BEFORE installation of PS18 and in the same location. As per Saby, the 32 Smartsound plugins work on the 32 bit version of PS17, but not on the 64 bit version. We are looking at this issue and will contact Déclic once a solution has been found.

Finally, I strongly encourage you to try the new 64 bit version of Pinnacle Studio 18. Personally I found a world of difference in terms of product performance and stability. I hope you will have the same experience as me. A reminder that we have a no questions asked 30 refund policy if you are not satisfied with your purchase.

We worked very hard in 2014 to fix some of our mistakes and to fulfill the commitment I made to this community to put more emphasis on product stability and performance. I realize we are not the first in the video editing industry to launch a 64 bit version of our product. This is due to many factors, a very big one being that Pinnacle remains the most advanced and functionally rich semi-professional video editor in the market, and consequently the most complex one to port on to a 64 bit architecture.

We will remain in close contact with the Declic team who will unlikely be much better than me in keeping you informed about Pinnacle Studio.

Respectfully,

Jacques Lamontagne
casper01
#casper01
Friday, October 24, 2014 3:10 PM
HFX effects work studio 18 Ultimate
Kate
#Kate
Friday, October 24, 2014 6:59 PM
Certainly looks good but I'm having problem with downloading my copy, I love Studio have been using it for 7 years and always update to the latest versions. This time download is so slow.
TonyP
#TonyP
Friday, October 24, 2014 7:09 PM
@Kate, it seems EVERYONE is having trouble downloading. Something that should get looked into. Nothing like spending HOURS downloading to find out that it's corrupt and you have to do it all over again.
Aman
Saturday, October 25, 2014 2:36 AM
Hello
Today buy Pinnacle Studio 18.But i am not able to download.Pls.help.....
Aman
Saturday, October 25, 2014 2:37 AM
The download is too slow and it stops in between.
Johan
#Johan
Saturday, October 25, 2014 6:55 AM
I too try downloading P18 for already 2 days, but with a rate of 29 Kb/s this will cost days.
What is the reason? Normally pinnacle comes in very quickly.
tomthumb
Saturday, October 25, 2014 9:07 AM
When is Digital River going to fix the PATHETIC download speed for
Pinnacle studio 18
its so slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww zzzzzzzzzzzzz
Tom G
Framer
#Framer
Saturday, October 25, 2014 12:09 PM
Took me more than overnight to download, but finally got it and works.
In order to make sure your download is complete, check the size of the files. I got the following (64 bits)
Setup 1683692 kB
Content 863797 kB
Bonus 1594589 kB
The file size didn't seem to progress evenly during download (despite refresh), so i thought it was stuck while it was actually downloading.
Johan
#Johan
Saturday, October 25, 2014 12:19 PM
dear Framer, I tried three times to download the smallest part (content), but three times the download stopped at about one third of the total load.
I think that Corel has a serious problem by selling downloadproducts which you cannot download.
Carlos Costabile
#Carlos Costabile
Sunday, October 26, 2014 12:03 AM
This version has translation into Portuguese of Brazil?
Honorius
#Honorius
Sunday, October 26, 2014 3:49 AM
From Marketing Director I would rather hear the Corel policy and plans for the future of both Videostudio and Pinnacle Studio as both are having pros and cons maybe developing one huge step ahead by combining the into one Videostudio might be big challange and competition winner (compared many NLEs from the shelf: Magix, CyberLink, Sony). Still PS is not as good as I would expect coming out of strong Corel's team.
charlie
#charlie
Sunday, October 26, 2014 6:56 AM
scaricate tramite il programma free download manager. Funziona !!!!
Lifechip
#Lifechip
Sunday, October 26, 2014 7:45 PM
I agree with Tom Thumb, Digital river is pathetic. Its about time companies who use Digital River start looking at their performance. I purchased a download copy of another software company and it tool 9 hrs. to download 3.5 gb file from them and I have NBN with 50 bps speed. I will not use Digital River again if I cannot buy a hard copy then I don't buy.
Déclic Vidéo FX
#Déclic Vidéo FX
Monday, October 27, 2014 1:42 AM
@ Lifechip, you can order a hard copy, and the price is the same (choose between download / hard copy).

DV FX
Jeff Naylor
#Jeff Naylor
Monday, October 27, 2014 5:27 AM
Are the readers of this website aware that Studio 18 64-bit is actually slower than both the 32-bit version and S17?

In particular the creation of mpeg-2 files takes much longer, and these are the building blocks of the preview render files. So you might think the download is slow, but wait to you start making exporting movies....
Arno
#Arno
Monday, October 27, 2014 8:02 AM
The downloadspeed is terrible! Use DownloadStudio (conceiva), it will save time. I had a crc-failure while extracting the bonuscontent (my file was 'Bonus' 1594589 kB). You can fix this with Winrar - open the exe in Winrar. Choose Tools and then Repair Archive\repareer archief - A new (fix) exe will be made. It worked for me. Your Creative Packs will work if you change the directory in C:\Users\Public\Documents\Pinnacle\Studio 18\Content (maybe also 20 cents templates - no time to test this yet).
Also the installer (welcome) generated a SQL-failure, in my case - you can fix this with installing Studio manual.
I hope they will fix de Prodad en Smartsound Plugins soon.
It looks a sport to make Pinnacle Studio 18 work!
tomthumb
#tomthumb
Monday, October 27, 2014 10:58 AM
Lifechip,SAYS you can order a hard copy, and the price is the same (choose between download / hard copy).

and can you give us a link to were it is the same price from what I have seen Digital river wants £12.50 for PS 18 on disc to be posted to buyer
Tom G
Déclic Vidéo FX
#Déclic Vidéo FX
Monday, October 27, 2014 12:37 PM
tomthumb, you are right, my mistake, I am sorry...
I just read on the website the price was similar, but when I complete the process, the delivery price appear... :-(

For information, I managed to download my files yesterday evening.

DV FX
tomthumb
#tomthumb
Monday, October 27, 2014 3:49 PM
No problem I just wanted to clear any confusion,
so the disc version of P.S. from Digital River is £12.50 more I do think this is very expensive price for postage,
for a disc in a box!!!!!!!!!
Tom G
Lifechip
#Lifechip
Tuesday, October 28, 2014 12:40 AM
Sorry Corel v18 is just too confusing and complicated no one should have to go through this changing files for downloads etc. I will give v18 a miss until Corel can assure their loyal customers that they have this version sorted out, then I will consider. Have decided to stay with v17.6 and "blunder" on.
Aman
Tuesday, October 28, 2014 12:57 AM
When will the downloading problem solve?I'm trying from last 4 days and not able to download.Pls.give some solution to download it........
Kate
#Kate
Tuesday, October 28, 2014 3:18 AM
Today I received an email from Pinnacle with new download links. The download was fast and worked fine, S18 Ultimate now installed. I had asked for help through the correct channels and cannot fault the assistance I have received. Now for the good part testing the new program.
TonyP
#TonyP
Tuesday, October 28, 2014 3:35 AM
@Kate, what were the correct channels to get help? I am sure others would like to know how they too can get help. Who did you contact?
Kate
#Kate
Tuesday, October 28, 2014 3:52 AM
This is the link to the Customer Support page

I filled out the details using the ContactTechnical Support field
Since my last post I have received another email apologising for the inconvenience.
TonyP
#TonyP
Tuesday, October 28, 2014 4:04 AM
@Kate. It's good to hear that Corel is finally handling the download issue.
Thanks.
Johan
#Johan
Tuesday, October 28, 2014 9:26 AM
congatulations Corel! You have taken your responsabilities by updating the downloadspeed for all P18 buyers!
Sorcer2k13
#Sorcer2k13
Tuesday, October 28, 2014 10:16 AM
Why not update Ps18 to give better export quality, 2 pass encoding, Avchd smart rendering, x264 export, proxy editting I don't see any of these in the Ps18 features. Great to see more speed impruvements, but computers are fast now and we need quality. Can someone test Avchd smart rendering? Corel has this in Corel Videostudio X7 and is working fine.
Déclic Vidéo FX
#Déclic Vidéo FX
Tuesday, October 28, 2014 2:51 PM
Sorcer2k13,

AVCHD Smart rendering is not working to my knowledge. You said "computer are fast now", but not for everybody.
At least, my computer which has still quite good specs (see here: Choosing a camcorder, choosing a computer), is awfully slow when I set the HARDWARE ACCELERATION on... :-(
It was problematic in Studio 17, still problematic in Pinnacle Studio 18. In fact, it also crashes the programm... Pinnacle recognizes the problem in Studio 17, managed to reproduce the problem, but unfortunately it is still there. I cross finger that next upgrade will definitely solve the problem ?

DV FX
Sorcer2k13
#Sorcer2k13
Tuesday, October 28, 2014 4:22 PM
Thanks for the answer. I have Intel Quick Sync (Intel Hd4000) but I tend to not use it, because it produces video with low quality compared with hardware acceleration off. Encoding with Intel Core I7 3770k is 8 times slower than Intel Quick Sync but there is a noticeable difference in output quality. For me smart rendering is the most important feature that i want as soon as possible. I hope that Corel is working on that because i have waited for this for so long, over 2 years now have past (Avid Studio - Pinnacle Studio 16-17) Keep an eye on smart rendering please. With every release I hope that i see smart rendering but i am disappointed when i find out that is not working properly. Why i want smart rendering? Maybe i want the same interlacing, the same compression, the same sound and i want to be able to export the same quality as input files but add transitions, cuts, etc. Smart Rendering in Corel Video Studio X7 is working every time.
Framer
#Framer
Tuesday, October 28, 2014 4:31 PM
Hi, I am so disappointed smart rendering does not work! It was supposed to be there since Studio 17 and i bought Studio 18 with this in mind! If it doesn't work then it is a lie from Corel !
Jeff Naylor
#Jeff Naylor
Tuesday, October 28, 2014 4:50 PM
Oh, it does work, just under very limited circumstances. The circumstances have not been widened out in 18
Sorcer2k13
#Sorcer2k13
Tuesday, October 28, 2014 5:12 PM
The problem is not with Corel, the problem is this format Avchd develop by Sony and Panasonic that has not been designed with smart rendering in mind. More less the format requires 2 times the processing power compared with mpeg2 but is 50% more efficient at the same image quality is not better. An Avchd 24mb/s is more or less a mpeg2 at 50mb/s.
Avchd is a compressed format and it is not video editing friendly, and you lose more if you encode it again. So in outer words, if you have a camera that shoots Avchd you are in a problem because you may not be able to preserve the same quality even if you export to Avchd at 24mb/s, Bluray 40mb/s. You need to export to a loseless format to be able to export to the same quality. The answer for the problem is smart rendering Avchd, but may introduce problems or artifacts. From what i know in a Avchd stream there are multiple frames that are connected with each other, one frame is combined using frames from past frames and there is an index that is stored at the beginning of the file. Corel has smart rendering working in Corel Video Studio X7 and from what i have tested is working fine. There approach to this is something like this, they take all the files and render only the parts that needs rendering and they stick all toghether and you get one export file that plays with no artefacts at all. If you play the file it plays beautifuly on Windows Media Player, Tv, Media Player, but if you want to convert that file you may not be able to convert in every program. Ps17 does not work with smart rendering Corel Video Studio X7 files.
Sorcer2k13
#Sorcer2k13
Tuesday, October 28, 2014 5:13 PM
Every since Ps17 came out the software has received 6-7 updates and had great support. Bugs have been fixed, stability has been a priority. I have discovered that Ps18 is out and it is 64bits. A big thanks goes to the support team for this and this is the best feature right now. I want to see if there is a export quality improvement between Ps17 (32bits) and Ps18 (64bits). What export speed is possible with 64bit architecture right now, with and without hardware acceleration. "Quality is the key"
Sorcer2k13
#Sorcer2k13
Tuesday, October 28, 2014 5:21 PM
If Corel made an option in Ps17-18 to save projects to be able to open then in Corel Video Studio X7 and save them with Avchd smart rendering it will work. Working in Ps18 and saving in Corel Video Studio X7 or correct this and make it work in Ps18.
Kate
#Kate
Wednesday, October 29, 2014 1:14 AM
While testing have found Motion titles are not working. Had the same issue with S17 at first.
Honorius
#Honorius
Wednesday, October 29, 2014 5:25 AM
@Sorcer2k13: you stated what I meant, Mate.
Corel should realize that having two separate quasi-pro NLEditors is wasting of money and time if they are not diversifcated. I would understand second brand as for amateurs only, with simple and easy features as the second would go much forward way for semi-pros. Otherwise users of both PS and VS will claim for many functionality, better performance and so on.
That is why, I would rather hear that plans from Marketing Director explained, not the overall story that he observes the forum. I switched years ago from PS12/14 to Adobe and tried also simple projects in many others NLEs. Still love Pinnacle's approach but noticed with every new release they lost principles and power, products are less efficient.
Colncusion is: make one good product, switch users to the one 'machine' and fight for market shares (BTW: PS18 is late with 64 support, as VS, Magix, Sony Vegas, Cyberlink have made this years ago).
TonyP
#TonyP
Wednesday, October 29, 2014 5:36 AM
@Kate, Motion titles work here for me. Suggestion, join the Pinnacle Forum. Lots of brain power and experience there to answer this question and others.

@Honorius, since you switched years ago from PS14, how do you know the capabilities of PS18? Reading about it is not the same as editing with it. There is, right now, at this price any NLE that offers what PS18U offers. I own a few others and never use them. I don't know what "principles and power" Pinnacle has lost. Could you explain more? How are the products less effective? You say the last one you owned was several year old S14. As for 64bit performance, what do you think that actually means? Most have the wrong idea and I bet they can't tell the performance difference between 32 and 64bit. Why? Because they have a misconception of what 64bit means outside of "marketing" hype.
BUT, I agree with you. Corel should concentrate all their resources on one product. But only they know the market share of PS and VSP. We can only guess.
Honorius
#Honorius
Wednesday, October 29, 2014 6:44 AM
@TonyP - thanks for response.
I got three video studios as collegues, working on Sony Vegas and Adobe. We all did try software after upgrading computers to 64-bit architecture, and noticed speed and (rendering) efficiency after switching to new platforms (all I mentioned and some others like GrassValley Edius for example). No one will spend thou$ands to choose the right editor.

As for quitting PS, I am observing this forum, notice so many Patches realesed one-by-one and claims of users. I do not have to edit in PS to have an opinion about the software convergent with hunderds of user, don't you think?

Agree, some of funcionalities PS had had implemented for years are still attractive and I vote for Corel's one NLE good semi-pro engine rather making two not-so-distant products.
Sorcer2k13
#Sorcer2k13
Wednesday, October 29, 2014 7:01 AM
Pinnacle has one of the best interface that I have worked with, it makes you feel great when you edit, making cuts, adding transitions, effects, you have the power to do great things. You have the power to see, to be able to produce, to be organized, productive, etc. It is simply one of the best and works. From an interface point it is a dream come true. I can not say the same thing about the export process. Pinnacle Studio uses Ffmpeg and it is good but not the best, it has 2 pass encoding but it is not activated in the export menu. Corel could make a frameserver to link Ps18 to other programs to be able to export to x264, x265, h264 - 2 pass encoding. For Adobe there is such a frameserver to export to x264, there is even a plugin that exports directly to x264.
TonyP
#TonyP
Wednesday, October 29, 2014 7:12 AM
@Honorius. You mention "upgrading" computers, so right there, things should go faster, so there is no real comparison. Now, if you work in 4K, you will be able to stream more tracks for playback. But most consumers are not working in 4K. I have Lightworks 64 and did not notice a difference from 32bit to 64bit. It might have something to do what what I edit and the length of my projects.

What is wrong with patch releases? Are you saying that the software you use does not have them? Addressing issues is a good thing. Reading the forums, well, most are here to report problems. You don't hear about the successes, do you. And while you can get an idea about the software, you can not base any true opinion of it since it is only 'second hand' information. That's like saying something does not taste good to you because someone else said it. You have not tried it yourself. So your opinion is based on other opinions. Not very good, is it.

Corel purchased Pinnacle. They could have ended a 'competitor' but chose to put out, so far 2 more revisions of it. They have chosen to invest in the software. There are the Pinnacle people out there. Then, there are the Ulead/VSP users out there. I do not know how much money they have made on either one, but I am sure if they were taking a pounding financially on either one, it would be ended. Also, they are hitting the competition on two fronts, not one.
VSP (I own X6U) and PS edit in much different ways. They might offer some commonality (they are editors), but for the most part, two entirely different editing software. For the same price, PS offers a more "pro" editing environment, and a more feature rich plugin experience. Any track can be anything. In VSP, music has to go on the music track, etc.. Not the way to edit. And... it edits in reverse track thinking. Where do you put an overlay? On the track above. Not VSP or the other consumer editors.

So, I speak from first hand actual experience about the products. I can go to any forum and read about people with problems, wanting patches/updates.

From Avid Studio to the current PS, they are totally different programs than what S14 was. Totally different.
Honorius
#Honorius
Wednesday, October 29, 2014 7:45 AM
@TonyP

Hope PS18 will finally be worth of all expectations, then :)

I will stay in the background until you, PS users will not definately convince me to make an upgrade. Thanks for your responses but you briefly merely grasped what I meant. Does not matter. Hope I will have PS for simple projects in the future as I do not want also invest much more money for upgrading my Adobe set. Good luck!
TonyP
#TonyP
Wednesday, October 29, 2014 7:56 AM
@Honorius, I am not trying to convince anyone to buy PS18 or any Pinnacle product. Just giving my first hand impression of it. Others disagree.
Maybe I do grasp what you mean, but disagree with it, hence my post.

I personally did not like Studio and used Premiere and later Edition (Liquid). The major limiting factor was the amount of tracks to work with. Hated it. When Avid Studio came out, I jumped to it right away and deleted S11, 12, 14 and 15 from my computer. And while there were some stumbling by Corel (seems marketing is in control), they've done a lot to correct it. PS17 was a disaster when released. But, Corel made it functional. PS18 is much better on it's release than PS17. Still, there are issues and they are working on them. For a $100 product, it's a killer with what it offers and can do.

If I had Adobe (I am assuming CS), I would not bother with PS at all. The last version of Adobe I had was Premiere 6.5. I was able to do quick work with it if need be.
Buying PS18 would be a "want" not a need for some. For "me", the features of NewBlue are what decided for "me" to make the upgrade from PS17. I've wanted them before, but they were not available to PS users.

For "me", PS18 is all that I need for what I do, being retired now. Maybe if they had a trial download, it would help people make a decision. But, unfortunately (and I don't know why), they don't.
Happy editing!
Framer
#Framer
Wednesday, October 29, 2014 11:12 AM
@Jeff Naylor, In which "very limited circumstances" does smart rendering work for AVCHD? I could not find any. There are so many parameters in AVCHD it would probably require a button or a checkbox to say something like "output with input video settings". I could not find any information on how to get AVCHD smart rendering to work, somehow, in Studio. If you know (or anyone else knows), would you mind sharing your knowkedge? Thank you.
Jeff Naylor
#Jeff Naylor
Wednesday, October 29, 2014 11:30 AM
Yes, I can do that. Won't it make this thread go a little off topic though? Wouldn't it be better for you to ask that question (and for me to answer it) in either a dedicated thread or better still on the Pinnacle forum? (I warn you - they are very limited circumstances :-) )
Sorcer2k13
#Sorcer2k13
Wednesday, October 29, 2014 1:35 PM
Make a new project and add to the timeline one AVCHD and click export, there you will find a format called Smart. When you save that file it works great, because it is a single file. Now take 2 AVCHD files and put them on the timeline, put a transition between the two and hit export. Now the option smart dissapears and you will need to convert to another format.
Déclic Vidéo FX
#Déclic Vidéo FX
Wednesday, October 29, 2014 3:33 PM
@ Sorcer2k13, I fully agree with you, and we will report to Pinnacle the need for smart rendering, this is a must have.
PS: I love your explanation regarding smartrendering... That's true, but also a non-sense that it works this way !

@ TonyP, you need to explain me what you are doing with NewBlue plugin... For me, useless...

DV FX
TonyP
#TonyP
Wednesday, October 29, 2014 3:40 PM
@Declic, NB might be useless to you, but to me and others, it isn't. Auto Pan to start. While not as good as Stagetools, better than what is present in PS18's Pan and Zoom. Rack focus, PiP, color swap to name a few.
But that's me. I know people that now use the Chroma keyer exclusively saying it's way better than Pinnacle's.
It is a matter of what you are looking for and need. If you don't need them, fine. Others feel differently.
Déclic Vidéo FX
#Déclic Vidéo FX
Wednesday, October 29, 2014 3:47 PM
Just to clarify, do not want to offense you, but to understand, as I said "you need to explain me what you are doing with it".
I will have a look to those effects you mention, Rack Focus, PIP, Auto Pan, ...

DV FX
TonyP
#TonyP
Wednesday, October 29, 2014 4:05 PM
@Declic. I do not take offense. I know some who could care less about the plugins. Some never use Red Giant. I for one, do not bother with the zillions of transitions in PS. I use cross dissolve, fade or cut.
It's all a matter of how you see things when editing and what "you" want to achieve.
While the NewBlue are great, there are editing features I would have rather like to see. Dynamic timewarping with interpolation. OpenCL support and real GPU support. Since secondary color correction is not available, color swap will do from NewBlue. Multicam would be nice. And above all else, stability. When you click on something, it should do what it is suppose to to with no trouble or crash.
Sorcer2k13
#Sorcer2k13
Wednesday, October 29, 2014 8:02 PM
I'm glad I could help. Regarding and implementing smart rendering.
Let's say for a second we have smart rendering working.
Smart Rendering now is set to render only the parts that needs rendering. For a project with a couple of files in it this works great. Until here all good. Say we have a complex project with over 60 AVCHD mts files in it. Now we apply transitions, cuts, effects, etc. Our project may look like this. Lenth of the project is one hour, the first 50 files are 3-4 seconds long each, and are all connected with fades, cuts and forms a trailer style, and are the first 5 minutes of the montage, the rest of 10 files make the remaining 55 minutes. Now we need to customize smart render to be able to render such a project because when we render only the parts that needs rendering there will be a noticeable diference of quality between the 50 files when we play the file (maybe 20 files needs to be converted and 30 files needs to be smart rendered) We may end up with 3 seconds converted, 4 seconds smart rendered and so on. One fix for such a problem is to set the smart rendering option to be activated only for files with minimum one minute in lenght, or for two minutes, three minutes. Files under one minute gets rendered from default. Now the first 5 minutes are render (50 files converted - 5 min) and the rest of 10 files are smart rendered (10 files intact - 55 min) Smart Rendering may function like the playback optimization in the preview control panel when you set the optimization threshold.
Framer
#Framer
Sunday, November 2, 2014 5:43 PM
Hello, Thanks to you, i have seen the "smart" format appearing in the Export window. But as soon as i add a second clip on the timeline it disappears so it's just to show it's there but can't be used, even to concatenate 2 clips. And by the way when i tried to export a single AVCHD .mts clip it took more time to render than a copy and came out as a .mp4, same video CODEC but different sound CODEC and different sound sample rate! Is that smart? So unless i did something wrong, smart rendering in Studio 18 is a joke.
Sorcer2k13
#Sorcer2k13
Monday, November 3, 2014 9:57 AM
Framer, your information are correct.
Framer
#Framer
Monday, November 3, 2014 4:34 PM
And by the way, every customer who bought Studio 17 based on marketing announcement :
"Processing speed and encoding up to 10 times faster (smart-rendering), currently only available for .MP4 file (for H264 files, it should arrive rather soon in a future patch)" is still waiting.
Usually when a new version comes out the previous one gets no more patches. Here it appears smart rendering was promised to Studio 17 customers, hope they will not be fooled.
Real Poirier
#Real Poirier
Thursday, November 6, 2014 7:14 PM
I just bought Studio 17, is it possible to upgrade to studio 18...
Thanks
TonyP
#TonyP
Friday, November 7, 2014 2:25 AM
@Framer, Smartrendering does work but it is really limited in it's use.

@Real Poirier, if you bought it from Pinnacle, you can get a refund (I don't know how much you paid for it) and use that money to buy PS18. There is a 30 day money back on it. If you wanted to keep PS17 and also have PS18, there is an upgrade price. Do not buy the HD basic version. It's crap. Plus or if you want the NewBlue plugins, Ultimate. If you have Ultimate PS17 with Red Giant plugins, those will be bridged to PS18 giving you a wealth of plugins.
Déclic Vidéo FX
#Déclic Vidéo FX
Saturday, November 8, 2014 12:47 PM
Just a small correction, not *ALL* Red Giant plugins are bridged, only part of them.

DV FX
TonyP
#TonyP
Saturday, November 8, 2014 1:10 PM
@DV, right. All the ones from PS17U will bridge. 3D Stroke and ToonIt will not.
Sorcer2k13
#Sorcer2k13
Monday, November 10, 2014 4:14 PM
To encode and record AVCHD and other forms of video on memory
cards, the data has to be highly compressed to fit into limited file space. Dividing
the signal into full-resolution black-and-white and partial-resolution color tracks
saves file space without much noticeable loss in the visual experience. Then, information
is consolidated and abbreviated based on complex predictive algorithms to
save space within the frame itself (intraframe compression). In addition, each successive
group of pictures (GOP) has an initial I frame with fairly complete information
followed by frames that record only motion changes based on bidirectional
references or simply predict in-between changes, which saves considerably more file
space (interframe compression). Quality modes on the G10/XA10 such as MXP and
FXP use algorithms with less compression and consequently contain more complete
and more accurate data than space-saving modes such as XP+, SP, and LP. The tradeoff
is quality versus file size and available recording time. Compression schemes such
as AVCHD (also called AVC/H.264) need computers and players with fast processing
speeds to decode and reconstruct the compressed video.
Le Papy
#Le Papy
Friday, November 21, 2014 9:25 AM
Hello,
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Regards,
Le Papy
#Le Papy
Friday, November 21, 2014 1:34 PM
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Sorcer2k13
#Sorcer2k13
Sunday, November 23, 2014 12:51 PM
The answer to smart rendering AVCHD footage is not releated to Ps18 or any other software. AVCHD It is simply a finishing codec. So in order to have better export quality we need to buy a camera with a better codec. XAVC codec is good and it has smart rendering too, even Mpeg2 50mb/s codec is good. XAVC export quality is very high even when converted. I have come to this forum to share my knowledge and to learn information. The site is nice and people can share thoughs. I want Ps18 to become on of the best video editor on the market.
TonyP
#TonyP
Monday, November 24, 2014 5:37 AM
I remember going from VHS to SVHS with Panasonic AG model cameras. It was a big difference. Then, when miniDV came out, smaller tape and camera size put my AG460 in the case forever. Next was AVCHD. With each step, image quality has jumped. For me, the next move would be 4K. Problem is, I happen to like the specs of the Samsung NX1, but the recording codec H.265 seems to be extremely difficult to work with. Smaller file sizes, but beastly computer power needed to work with it. How is it working with XAVC?
saby
#saby
Monday, November 24, 2014 6:12 AM
XAVC is H.264, like AVCHD.
So saying XAVC is good for smart rendering while AVCHD not is uncorrect.
XAVC is just using highest level available in the H.264 standard : 5.2 (highest resolution and highest fps).
Tom G
Monday, November 24, 2014 12:49 PM
Pinnacle Studio DOES NOT support HEVC 265 So no good to me until it does, Cyberlink Powerdirector 13 does support H265 but it still has a few bugs to iron out, and they will do it a lot quicker than Pinnacle.
so people whop use this codec should be aware of this,

Its no good just supporting this codec its also got to WORK within the programme smoothly.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So Pinnacle Please get this sorted and drag yourselves into the 21st century
Tom G
TonyP
#TonyP
Monday, November 24, 2014 3:26 PM
@Tom G, you know how much computer horsepower you will need to work with 265? Yes, PD13 does have it, but that does not mean it is something that can be edited. Heck, many years ago, AVCHD was there too, but computers could not handle the compression.
What cameras are supporting this HEVC? Have you spent time reading what PowerMacs, Adobe and FCP X do with handling this codec? Sorry, it isn't for the "masses", yet. Just like editing AVCHD wasn't when it first came out.
You'll have to buy a converter to use HEVC. Sorry, not for me.
As for Pinnacle, I would rather them spend more time fixing what they have than trying to get a codec that no one is really using in the here and now, or foreseeable future.
Just my thoughts.
Sorcer2k13
#Sorcer2k13
Monday, November 24, 2014 7:00 PM
H265 is a finishing codec, so no go. XAVC is better than AVCHD, has more contrast, sharpness, has been build with smart rendering in mind, etc On XAVC you can have 50mb bitrate, even 100, AVCHD 2.0 tops at 28mb bitrate. The best thing would be to shoot in 4K XAVC and deliver the material in Bluray 1080p H264 (even x264 if there is possible) In 4K XAVC there is no interlaceing and that is why we loose so much when converting AVCHD material. AVCHD is that they give us quality and they take it right away after we save it. Files from AVCHD files at 24-28mb are bit (one hour is 12 Gb with AC3 audio) XAVC might be the best codec to start with and is what AVCHD is not.
Sorcer2k13
#Sorcer2k13
Monday, November 24, 2014 7:15 PM
I have a question. In PS18 if I shoot in AVCHD 1080 60i (fields) 24mb bitrate can I export to mp4 24mb bitrate 29.976 frames with aac sound without having sound sync problems? I am limited to exporting to to Bluray or AVCHD or even M2TS with AC3? I want to export AVCHD M2TS 60i to MP4 29.976 interlace, or it is not possible? I have tried with different software and I get sound sync problems when the audio is in aa. If the audio is in wav format there is no problem. To make it to work with aac audio I have to export it to progressive mp4 29.976 but the motion image it is not that fluid.
TonyP
#TonyP
Tuesday, November 25, 2014 5:57 AM
@Scorcer, I would try it, but only have 17mb rate for AVCHD at my end. I do export in Pinnacle to MPG4 1080p and have had no sync issues. But then, my projects might not be long enough to get them. They are mostly under 10 minutes. Sorry, I haven't burned a DVD/Bluray in ages. I guess the Pinnacle forum would be a good place to ask this question.

Interesting the information with XAVC. I wondered why Samsung choice a codec that is not widely supported and requires tremendously powerful hardware to work with it in it's native format unless you convert it (more money) to an easier format for editing "today".
Jesus Esquivel
#Jesus Esquivel
Friday, November 28, 2014 3:42 AM
I can install pinnacle studio 18 ultimate 32bit on my windows vista?
I appreciate your information.
Le Papy
#Le Papy
Friday, November 28, 2014 4:56 AM
Hello,
The official Pinnacle website says :
System Requirements :
Windows 8, Windows 7 (64-bit OS recommended)
Windows Vista is not mentioned.
Regards,
Geoffey
#Geoffey
Monday, December 1, 2014 2:19 AM
I am presently using PS 17 Ultimate on a Windows Vista 32 bit system. I have just purchased PS 18 Ultimate. Will PS 18 Ultimate work OK, and should I remove PS 17 before loading PS 18?
Thank you.
Le Papy
#Le Papy
Monday, December 1, 2014 3:16 AM
Hello,
Please, look at the comment just above yours...
Regards,
Geoffrey
#Geoffrey
Monday, December 1, 2014 4:15 AM
Thank you very much. I am new to declic-video and not sure of the correct reply protocol. Your advice is very much appreciated. I should like to know however, do I have to remove PS17 before installing PS18.
Thank you again,
Regards,
Geoffrey
Le Papy
#Le Papy
Monday, December 1, 2014 4:27 AM
Hello Geoffrey,
Do not uninstall Studio 17 before installing Studio 18. Studio 18 transfer RedGiant plugins from Studio 17 if installed
Regards,
Geoffrey
#Geoffrey
Monday, December 1, 2014 4:52 AM
Thank you so much for your assistance.
Geoffrey
Reed
#Reed
Saturday, December 20, 2014 10:45 AM
PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT GET THIS UNTIL CORAL SORT OUR ALL THE PROBLEMS.
IT WON'T IMPORT OR EXPORT CORRECTLY.
TonyP
#TonyP
Saturday, December 20, 2014 12:15 PM
@Reed.... it might not work for YOU, but works fine for ME.
Reed
#Reed
Saturday, December 20, 2014 2:49 PM
I have a budet NLE which work fine onthe VHS tapes. Yet with PSU18 it crashes with small squares on import.
And on export it crashes on 'creating disc image' or if it does write to disc it starts ok but about 2/3 through the sound & picture are way out or the whole disc locks up.
Neither Avid Studio nor the budget NLE has ever done this. So clearly Pinnacle Studio 18 Ultimate has some really big problems & I can't reccomend any one buying it until Coral sort these huge problems out.
Henrik DR
Tuesday, January 6, 2015 8:04 PM
If you have Pinnacle 17.6 Ultimate, is it worth to make the uppgrade to 18? Or can I save my bucks. It has just been one year since last edition and so much new can't been implemented.
TonyP
#TonyP
Wednesday, January 7, 2015 5:44 AM
@Henrik DR, if you don't need NewBlue plugins or a 64bit program, PS17U is more stable than PS18U, which in reality is a version 1 software in 64bit. If you have no problem editing now, wait for the next version. Things should be patched and fixed by then (we hope). I personally wanted the NewBlue FX plugins, but they were never available for PS. Now, they are, so the cost of upgrading was less than what I would have paid for the NewBlue plugins. But that's "me".
There have been a lot of posts with people having DVD/Bluray burning issues.
PS18U is a great step forward, give it some time to get the wobbles worked out. I edit short videos, but they can be complex. With PS18U, I can get it done, but, for the most part, I can do the same thing in PS17U.
Déclic Vidéo FX
#Déclic Vidéo FX
Wednesday, January 7, 2015 3:04 PM
@Henrik DR, I fully agree with comments from TonyP (excepted Newblue that I don't care, since I never managed to enter in contact with NewBlue team, so I am very very reluctant to mention their product...)

DV FX
PS: By the way, you mention NewBlue FX as being compatible, which is not the case for Video Essentials II for example, and other packages, unless I am mistaken...
TonyP
#TonyP
Wednesday, January 7, 2015 4:23 PM
@DV, you could not get VII, V or others for PS. I do have NBFX VE II and that worked. But the ones I wanted after that (I think 3 is also able to be used) were never available to us.
Charles
#Charles
Wednesday, January 7, 2015 10:34 PM
AVI export to 32 bit vfw codecs works on v18 ultimate 32 bit version initially.
After applying the initial patch to v18.02 32 bit ultimate the 32 bit vfw codecs become invisible.

The 64 bit version does not appear to list any 64 bit vfw codecs either before or after update.
It is a pity as with all previous versions purchased this has been available.

Without AVCHD smart render working as promised, exporting to a good quality lossless codec IE: Magic,UT,Lagarith was the best option to retain image quality.

I have abandoned PowerDirector as avi output there is very limited, looks like PS is in need of a new patch.

Hopefully won't have to look at an alternative and restart the learning curve all over.

Roberts
#Roberts
Thursday, January 8, 2015 5:14 PM
I am glad that I have read the comments. I only purchased Studio 17 last year and had to learn how to use it again, luckily people like Maliek (Pinnacle Studio Pro) and Paul Holtz exist. I only upgrade every so often, however after reading your comments and the problems already occurring, I will stay with Studio 17 until 18 gets rid of its bugs. I have been using Studio since version 8.
TonyP
#TonyP
Friday, January 9, 2015 4:44 AM
@Roberts. There are some people that want to have the newest and latest. I buy when there is something significant that I need to help in my editing. For Pinnacle, every upgrade has been worth it to me bringing new features and effects that I want and will use in my projects. With Corel's VSP X6U, going to X7U was no big deal. I have it for motion tracking and subtitling. With PowerDirector, those few times I shoot with more than 2 cameras, it syncs them up just fine. Other than "those" features (and a couple of others), I do not use their products for editing.
NewBlue FX addons that I did want was Video Essentials 5 (Color Replace was one of the reasons because there is no secondary color correction in Pinnacle), and I do happen to like their transitions, especially Light Blends. There are more features in NewBlue that I like too, so the cost of buying them "if" they were available for PS is more than the cost of the upgrade. You could have gotten VE5, but it was broken. Some features did not work and there was never a patch released for it. The same with VE7.
But with that upgrade came the 64bit version. Yes, some teething pains, but I have survived so far. Pinnacle seems to be aware of these issues and working on them. It's whether you want to wait "with" them if one of these problems is stopping you from working.
I have a friend who edits. I just finished our Year In Review for my church (5 minutes). He wanted to know what editor I used to produce it. I told him PS18U, which allowed me to include far more photos easier than the other programs. Montage is great!
VIDEO
Lay
#Lay
Wednesday, February 11, 2015 8:43 AM
im sssooo angry with pinnacle in the past I have done a few projects thru them now im having such trouble with pinnacle 18 its not exporting normally and there no one to talk to when I try contacting them! im so frustrated because i worked on this slideshow for over 100 hours and now I cant even finish it. its the most annoying thing ever! I would not recommend this program at all! I had enough of it .
TonyP
#TonyP
Wednesday, February 11, 2015 8:49 AM
@Lay. I don't know how long you have had the program. There is tech support for the first 14 days free, after that, you have to pay. Same with just about any other piece of software.
But one place you haven't tried to get help is the Pinnacle Forum.
Try it. You might find the solution to your problem.
As for recommending the software, I would. But it's not for the novice weekend person.
Pinnacle Forum
Be polite. Be precise in what is happening. Include what version (there are 3) of PS18 you are using. And answer any questions tossed your way. Ranting and screaming is a turn off to someone who might consider answering your post.. They don't know if it will be turned on them. Just some thoughts from someone who has been in the forum for over 10 years.
See you there!
Charles
#Charles
Wednesday, February 18, 2015 3:30 AM
Hello Felow Declicers

Very happy to see an update today.

Sadly still no vfw export codecs available as before.

We can live in hope that this will be addressed in a future update.
Roberts
#Roberts
Friday, February 20, 2015 3:02 PM
@TonyP - it sounds as if you already have all the latest and greatest. I only have PS17U and all the predecessors of this that I bought. I am one that will wait, let others boldly search and research and when they come up with a program that is stable and works fine then I will consider purchasing it. As long as they keep making tutorials that can be used in my version then I am quite fine with that. I would love the grouping function to be available in PS17 but that is small compared to being about to use Smart Sound. I would rather master the one I have than have to try and learn new ones all over again.
TonyP
#TonyP
Friday, February 20, 2015 3:51 PM
@Roberts. There really isn't much difference between PS17 and PS18. Really. The only reason for me to upgrade is because of the NewBlue FX that comes with it. Those plugins I've wanted but were not available for PS17U. And I was willing to pay the price if they were. But now, I get them for the cost of an upgrade, which is far far less in cost. The grouping function still needs work. The 64bit feature, well, the debate continues. If you have HUGE projects, yeah. But for my work, mostly under 10 minutes, not really necessary. But I'll let you in on a little secret. If you know PS17, you'll know PS18. Some minor tweaks to the UI, but editing is exactly the same. You'll find all your plugins and assets in the same place. But you gotta want the plugins from NewBlue. If not, hey, wait till the next release.
Roberts
#Roberts
Saturday, February 21, 2015 1:51 PM
Thanks TonyP, as I don't even understand what the New Blue thing is or does, then I really am not missing it. PS17 has so much more for me to learn and to grow learning with. If they are that similar then by the time they bring out PS18 the best without the kinks it will probably be time for PS19 and I will end up buying the better of the too. I do not need the latest and greatest, I just need to understand how to use what I have got.
Apart from Paul Holtz & Maliek Whittaker can you recommend any other video tutorials I can go to learn how to use PS17?
Roberts
#Roberts
Saturday, February 21, 2015 2:06 PM
Oh I should have also said Declic video tutorials too, now I have found them. More to learn this should be fun. Or knowing me I am going to get lost and need loads of help. I see that they supply tutorials for PS17 & PS18 so there must be some difference at least.
TonyP
#TonyP
Saturday, February 21, 2015 2:40 PM
@Roberts, PS18 is out now. But there is no rush. Also remember, any training that you find for PS16 usually transfers to the same thing in PS17 too. You listed excellent sources for training. Here, they have excellent tutorials and free transition effects. Maliek? He'll show you a bunch of stuff to keep you more than busy. And Paul Holtz is just great.
Spend the time with the program and do not be afraid to experiment! And have a good time with it!
Don't forget the Pinnacle Forum too!
Ian Reed
#Ian Reed
Sunday, February 22, 2015 5:41 PM
Well have downloaded the latest patch & now it seems to work on export.
I just wonder why Coral released a product that had so many problems with it in the first place.
The patch covers a host of things & does make a difference.
One thing still bugs me. I've changed my graphics card to a Nvidia Quatro 2000 & yet after changing the setting both in Studio & for the monitor it seems to make no difference to the speed that Studio renders or writes to disc.
TonyP
#TonyP
Monday, February 23, 2015 4:10 AM
@Ian, some people have a lot of problems, some people don't. There is an infinite number of PC possibilities out there. No one can know what is on anyone's PC or how to program for every situation. MS updates their OS all the time, yes? There is no way to know what software they have installed and how it affects overall computer performance and compatibility, etc.. Why do some have problems and others don't? Their PC config which can be anything.

Your graphics card has little to do with rendering or writing to disk. PS18, like most editors is CPU intensive when rendering with some fx/transitions that make use of the GPU. But most of the rendering is CPU. Writing to disk is a function of your hard drive, and nothing more.
Ian Reed
#Ian Reed
Monday, February 23, 2015 4:26 AM
Hi Tonyp
I know what you are saying about writing to disc. But why then does it have a setting for cuda which is only for a Quatro graphic card?
TonyP
#TonyP
Monday, February 23, 2015 6:30 AM
@Ian, I can't answer for that. As with most editors (including the Adobe CC, etc...), they used CUDA for rendering of some effects and transitions. I have posted I would rather see OpenCL implemented because both AMD and Nvidia support it. "Way back when", Pinnacle used ATI video cards for their hardware support. Liquid worked best with ATI cards. Now, CUDA is what they use. I am still waiting to see anything supporting a speed increase using it. I use an AMD card, and while exporting a project, it will be used. I monitor both the CPU and GPU while rendering. For for curiosity. With text, Montage and some transitions, GPU usage appears (I have HD7870) on an off but with maybe up to 60% usage for brief periods.. But the CPU will be going (with MPG4 exporting) mostly 90% and above (using FX8350 overclocked) on all 8 cores. It's just the way it's set up within Pinnacle. CUDA is for basically any Nvidia card. They all have CUDA cores of varying numbers. It's not
specific to just their Quadro cards. The Quadro 2000 has 192 CUDA cores, the same as a GT 720 which costs under $50.
Déclic Vidéo FX
#Déclic Vidéo FX
Sunday, March 1, 2015 9:31 AM
@ Ian: have a look to the following article, ATI vs NVIDIA for Pinnacle Studio, BluffTitler or proDAD ?
DV FX
sabine
#sabine
Saturday, March 21, 2015 11:00 AM
I've just installed Pinnacle studio18 Ultimate. Buttons are missing on the toolbar in the middle. I just have a horseshoe and something else. I don't have any keyframe for the audio. I have no wheel under the display to adjust the speed. I bought the original version. Already 2 times indeed! I hate it. Has anyone else this problem?
TonyP
#TonyP
Saturday, March 21, 2015 12:42 PM
@sabine.... nope... everything is on the toolbar for me. Read all the replies here and you see no one with your problem, which is easily solved by taking a look in the manual on page 77 and 78.
But then, who bothers to read it......
Sajan
#Sajan
Sunday, March 22, 2015 11:40 PM
i need this things please.
TonyP
#TonyP
Monday, March 23, 2015 5:23 AM
@Sajan, if you have the basic version of PS18, you will not have the toolbar tools. Sorry, they are only available in Plus and Ultimate versions.
If you have Plus or Ultimate, read pages 77-78 in the manual.
lifechip
#lifechip
Tuesday, May 19, 2015 7:53 AM
Hi, well here we go again. Have just downloaded and installed the latest patch for PS Ultimate and now find that the Red Giant plugins have gone from the Plugins folder in Effects Editor. Anyone else having this problem or does someone know a resolution and fix, thanks.
lifechip
#lifechip
Tuesday, May 19, 2015 7:55 AM
OOps Forgot to say that I am running PSv18 0n Windows 8.2 64 bit.
Ron Bailey
#Ron Bailey
Wednesday, June 24, 2015 4:29 PM
This is not strictly a personal request, but I would like to record in HD video, Peterborough's (UK) 800th anniversary of the "Cathedral" in early August.
I know I would not be able to do it all on my own, so are there any members in or near Peterborough who would like to join me.

Kind regards, Ron Bailey.
(A former Stringer for Anglia TV)
Christina
Friday, September 25, 2015 1:44 PM
I have spent hours looking & reading forums about burning issues I'm experiencing. I used my Pinnacle Ultimate 18 to make a Memorial Video for my Grandfather in April worked great & burned the DVD. Also made a DVD of my daughter late July worked great. Now I've been trying to burn my grandfathers DVD for a family member that is in from Florida to take home. I've had nothing but issues with the exporting process. The movie seems to render then it even said write, but the disc drive door isn't popping open when done & the there's only a small burned ring around the disc. I don't understand what the problem is, this is my 1st time having issues being able to burn. I've spent hours & hours reading yesterday on what could be wrong. I set my DVD up just like before with the NTSC &the video itself is about 53 mins long. My computer is a brand new as of March 2015 it's an HP-All-In-One & I just upgraded to Windows 10 almost a month ago now! Anyone with advice I would "GREATLY" appreciate the help, thank you!!!
Le Papy
#Le Papy
Friday, September 25, 2015 2:28 PM
Hello Christina,
This comment section is generally reserved for discussions related to :
- errors on our part
- effects which are described in our article and not possible for any reason
- asking details regarding a particular point
- approval that you were able to find and apply this article, or on the other hand, your disapproval

Unfortunately, your question is not covered by any of the above. This site is managed by volunteers and we do not have the means for direct assistance and troubleshooting for issues not directly or indirectly related to our publications. In this case, we recommend that you go directly on the Pinnacle forum. You will receive a prompt response to your question, either from forum members or ourselves if we have the time available.
Best Regards,
DV FX Team
Zuriel
#Zuriel
Wednesday, September 30, 2015 8:40 PM
Studio 18 struggles to even render, It can't cope with Mp2 Fulll HD files or anything over 2 hours long.
Struggles on windows 10 even with latest patch to 18.6.
This programme is not worth looking at.
I have been using Pinnacle software from 1994. Avid Studio was and still is the best for me and renders file efficiently. I have a quad core PC all whistles and bells
I also use Avid Media composer which is after all the professional editing like you should software with is absolutely great.
Don't bother any more with Pinnacle. I just downloaded version 18 and all the patches it still struggles to perform even a basic cut. Absolute RUBBISH.
Money back please.
Zuriel
#Zuriel
Wednesday, September 30, 2015 8:43 PM
Should Read 2004 not 1994.
 

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