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Stabilizer

That's it, everything is in the title ! Many of you are wondering if it is better to use the proDAD Mercalli stabilizer, or AVID Media Composer Fluid Stabilizer included in Studio 14.

So I took a little shaky sequence, and I applied the 2 stabilizers, trying to do the best, here is what happens :

I believe everyone is doing well in a particular area : AVID Stabilizer in terms of quick shake, proDAD Mercalli for flickers. But it may be a matter of setting and taste? ...
Note that the AVID stabilizer has only few parameters, but nevertheless seems well and yet effective.

 

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Ian Litchfield
Thursday, September 24, 2009 6:16 AM
Very interesting. However we have found that footage stabilised with the Mercalli plugin to be virtually useless on the final DVD. The rendered footage looks good enough in the timeline and if you make an avi from it then it also looks good, but once it's on DVD it is terrible, flickering and far more shakey than the original. This is with PAL footage, no doubt Mercalli and Studio have only ever tested it on NTSC footage. We use a third party program to sort out stabilisation problems at the moment. I would be very interested if you were to output the AVID stabilised image (PAL version) to DVD and see what happens.

Cheers
Ian
Niek
#Niek
Thursday, September 24, 2009 7:03 AM
Thanks for this interesting comparison.
How would you rate the AVID version opposite the VirtualDub deshaker ?

Best regards
Niek
Ian Litchfield
Thursday, September 24, 2009 7:52 AM
Niek

Not used virtual DUB, tried a while back with S10 and had a few problems, maybe I'll give it a go again. The program we use which is extremely good is Steady Hand from www.goodervideo.com. (we have no connection to this company other than being a customer). The only problem with this is that you have to break up the film into many short AVIs because if you use frame zoom to fill and the film is very shakey then you will lose maybe 20% of the picture, which is fine for a short scene but you don't want it running throughout the whole film.

Ian
Gert Reitner
#Gert Reitner
Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:56 AM
Very Interesting ! I am sure there will be comments on that subject !
Alan Wells
#Alan Wells
Thursday, September 24, 2009 9:27 AM
How did you get the Mercalli filter onto the effects palette in Studio 14?
Déclic Vidéo FX
Thursday, September 24, 2009 2:19 PM
@ Ian Litchfield,
On my side, I have several DVD made with Mercalli, without any trouble. But I am using the Expert version, and I have to search for the good setting before applying it. For the time being, I have unfortunately no time to render a DVD, I am very sorry... S14 has already reached several users, and some of them are wondering how to install it, so we are preparing the associated tutorial. Later on, we could come back to this issue with pleasure.

@ Niek,
To be honnest, I have never used VirtualDub deshaker, maybe saby has tried it once ? He is an expert with VirtualDub and he is making all our VDub tutorial.

@ Alan Wells,
I explain it in the article called "Pinnacle Studio 14: first impressions" in the section "and what about plugins". You just need to follow the explanations. We will soon launch a tutorial for the installation.

Regards,
DV FX
kowi
#kowi
Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:46 PM
.... and the winner is: MERCALLI !!!
Graham Pearson
#Graham Pearson
Saturday, September 26, 2009 4:54 PM
How about rolling shutter artifacts.I shot a lot of live music with a Cannon HV 20 .I have to hand hold it with loud(above 90db)bands to avoid jello.The bass seems to be the culprit.Any suggestions?
Déclic Vidéo FX
Thursday, October 1, 2009 9:35 AM
Hello Graham,

What is rolling shutter artifacts ?? Your language is very technic for me in a non-native language, I am a little lost. Can you please explain a little bit your concern ?

DV FX
Niek
#Niek
Thursday, October 1, 2009 11:49 AM
Hello Ian,

Thanks for your reaction.
In the mean time I have installed S14 and added the VirtualDub plug-in for testing purposes. As soon as I have a better view I will report the result here.
Might take a while.

thanks again

Best regards
Niek
Déclic Vidéo FX
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 2:43 PM
OK niek, let us known. And do not forget to check our Virtual Dub tutorial, made by saby ! Might interest you.

DV FX
Graham
#Graham
Sunday, August 22, 2010 1:58 PM
Will this take the shake out of a CMOS imager like the one Canon uses in the HV20.When I shoot loud bands I have to hand hold the camera to keep the vibrations of the bass from affecting the picture,it looks like a bowl of jello.Or is a better tripod,mine cost $50.00,the answer?
Déclic Vidéo FX
#Déclic Vidéo FX
Sunday, August 29, 2010 6:03 AM
Hello Graham,

The idea behind is to stabilise CMOS image (rolling shutter) which happen on CMOS image. So if you refer to this, the answer is YES.

DV FX
Gert Oskar Reitner
#Gert Oskar Reitner
Sunday, December 4, 2011 1:23 PM
Le Papy since you have sent me here I was hoping to find more of a Tutorial on the Studio Stabilizer rather than just a comparison ! Since Saby is the expert on Vdub perhaps he could do a Tutorial on the Vdub Stabilizer . That would be grrat to have other options !
Regards
Gert
Déclic Vidéo FX
#Déclic Vidéo FX
Sunday, December 4, 2011 1:59 PM
Hello Gert,

So far, we made a comparison of Mercalli and Studio, but not with Virtual Dub, probably because it's more difficult to use for daily use...


DV FX
 

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